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As some of you
may know, I have owned both a ‘97 and a ‘98 RT. Each one was
different in its tendency to drift right. I for one, never
much let it bother me ř I don’t feel that it impairs the performance
of the bike, and its pretty rare that I ride without my hands
on the bars. If I do, its just for a few seconds to open or
close the pit zips on my riding suit. I just weight the left
peg a bit more and it goes straight.
However, some bikes
have demonstrated significant pull and riding requires holding
a constant pressure on the left grip, which can be very fatiguing.
Some riders report that its not just a problem when you're
doing something you shouldn't normally be doing (riding with
no hands), but that the pull can be constant and can be severe
enough to cause discomfort when riding solidly.
Speaking of things
you should not be doing, Peter Cleife <cleife@emirates.net.ae>
has a different reason for riding without any hands:
“The only time where I notice is it, is if I take both hands
of the bars, the bike will then track to the right, whereas
on my Harley (Dyna Convertible), I could ride with 'hands
off' and steer with my knees. This was handy when I was opening
beer cans etc on the move. On the RT I have to stop if I want
to open a drink. I assume this is due to the 'flat twin' v
'V in line twin'.”
All kidding aside,
Mark Neblett notes “….MUCH frustration for RT owners with
pulling bikes. Lots of theories among owners and non-owners
as to the source of the pull. Add in an apparently considerable
variation in the magnitude of the pull from bike to bike,
and the speculation just keeps going . . . . Nonetheless,
as an engineer (former career), I've not found a credible
theory, other than the wheel misalignment with the CG theory,
that makes sense in view of physics/mechanics principles.”
There seems to
be four main schools of thought on the reason your RT pulls
right: 1) The weight of the bike is biased
to the right, 2) Its caused by torque
from the boxer motor, 3) The suspension
is not properly set up for the rider, and 4) The
front and rear wheels are out of alignment with the bike’s
CG (Center of Gravity).
There is one last
“school” to consider. Some people have suggested that this
is an inherent design flaw with the RT and that the bike should
be recalled or that BMW should be taken to task under a class-action
suit. I for one could not condone this and feel that such
a case would fail as it would be difficult to convince anyone
that a motorcycle (or any vehicle for that matter) should
be safe to operate without any hands on the controls.
Right
Weight Bias
The first theory
is that the bike is simply weighted with a bias to the right.
Bruce Melton <brucemelton@hotmail.com>
says that he “experienced this with my '96 to some degree
and the factory guys at BMW explained it this way, "if
you look at the bike from the rear you will notice that all
of the drivetrain weight is on the right side, hence the bike
has a tendency to pull to the right." If you factor in
the fact that most roads are crowned to drain water off to
the right, then it is easy to see why this happens. If the
tank is full it only adds to the pull.”
Some have theorized
that the bike is so finely designed, it was designed to run
straight with the radio installed in the left front compartment
ř without the weight of the radio, it does not go straight:
Calvin <no E-mail> Says “Yes, there are several theories
about why the R1100RT pulls to the right, while other BMWs
don't seem to have the same affliction. One that I saw posted
on a K1200LT forum was from a fellow who said it was due to
the bike being set up for the weight of a radio, and his didn't
have the radio. Therefore, he added several pounds of buck-shot,
in a bag of some sort, to the left side of his fairing. I
believe he put it in the space where the radio is normally
mounted. He swears it worked.”
Thomas Gerity <tcg49@earthlink.net>
has another idea: “A cheaper solution is to drop a brick
into the box on the left, and if you do that you will find
that the brick works fully as well as the BMW radio in all
respects.
But Mark Neblett
was adamant that this weight fix was not the solution:
“Not true in my case, Tom. Before I put the washer under
the swingarm pivot head, I tried driving around with
a 13-14 lb of weight in the fairing pocket Roughly
twice the weight of the factory radio. Hardly felt any
difference. Same with the saddlebag; unless carrying
verboten amount of weight, not significant difference.
And for the folks talking tire wear or gas tanks, no joy there
either -- my RT pulled from day one, so tire wear wasn't an
issue for me, and I never noticed any difference in pull with
a full tank vs. empty.”
Gary Prickett <BeemerGary@aol.com>
commented “Per the Paul Glaves article in the December issue
of BMWON, the cause is the rightward weight bias of
the transmission, driveline and final drive of the R1100
motorcycles. Until this discussion arose on this List, I was
unaware of this situation. Even now knowing about it,
I consider is a non-problem. No big deal. Ho-hum. Just
another thing that gives BMWs their unique "character".
| Paul
Glaves <pglaves@aol.com>
is the technical editor of the BMW MOA’s monthly magazine
BMW Owner’s News. Paul was kind enough to send me
his take on the matter:
Another example of "they all do that, don't
worry about it" is the tendency for some BMW
motorcycles to wear the left side of their front
tires more than the right sides of the tires, accompanied
by a detectable tendency for the motorcycle to wander
or pull to the right. I have fielded questions
regarding this situation since the introduction
of the K series motorcycles into the United States
in 1985. The phenomena is not limited to the
K series motorcycles. It is a common occurrence
with the R1100 series as well, and questions about
the R1100RT are particularly common.
These BMW models are certainly not the only models
effected with the tendency to wander right and wear
the left sides of their tires. One of the
factors which contributes to this tendency applies
to all motorcycles. In the United States,
we ride on the right side of the road. Most
roads are constructed with a "crown".
That is, in straight sections, the road slopes
from the center of the road to the edge. This
slope is typically about 1/2 vertical inch per horizontal
foot.
Attempting to ride straight down a crowned road
with a perfectly balanced bike in zero wind conditions
would still cause that motorcycle to tend to steer
to the right, toward the downhill edge of the road.
The rider corrects for this by holding slight uphill
steering to the left. This causes the front
tire to wear more, left of center. Interestingly,
for many models of motorcycles this phenomenon is
reversed in England, Japan, and other countries
where motorists use the left side of the roadway.
But many K series and R1100 BMW's exhibit the tendency
to steer right and wear the left side of the tire
even in countries where riding on the left side,
not right side, of the roadway is normal.
Why?
BMW introduced the Kompact Drive
Unit on the K series motorcycles. If you look
closely at the Kompact Drive Unit - engine, transmission,
driveline, and final drive - it is clear that the
weight is not centered left-right. The inline
engine lying on its side has the crankshaft located
right of the centerline of the chassis. The
transmission is also weight biased to the right.
And, obviously the bulk of the swingarm, the driveshaft,
and the final drive or rear end unit are located
right of the center line of the chassis.
If you were to attempt to balance a K bike on its
tires on a perfectly flat surface in a zero wind
enclosure, from an absolutely vertical position
it would inevitably always fall over to the right.
So, when riding the bike, more often than not the
weight bias to the right will cause the motorcycle
to want to lean to the right. This again makes
it necessary to hold slight left steering pressure
to go straight and added wear left-of-center on
the front tire.
A similar rightward weight bias exists in the transmission,
driveline, and final drive on the R1100 motorcycles.
It is true to a lesser extent on the airheads too.
For K bikes and R1100's the weight bias appears
to be an even stronger factor that the road crown
factor. In the United States and other countries
where motorists drive/ride right of center the two
factors are working together. In countries
where riders ride left of center, the two factors
work opposite to each other - and for some bikes
the tire wear is on the right. But for K's
and R1100's, most of the reports I am getting from
overseas owners indicate that the weight bias overrides
the road crown and there the tires often wear on
the left side there too.
What is frustrating to owners about this situation
is the question, "even if they all do it, how
much is too much." And that is a question
for which there is no simple answer. Fifteen
years ago many K bike riders discovered that if
they packed their saddlebags so that the heavy stuff
was in the left saddlebag and light stuff was in
the right saddlebag, it made a difference.
Some owners and dealers have found that omitting
the flat, washer-like spacer from between the rear
wheel and final drive output flange (where the wheel
bolts on) lessens both pull to the right and left
side front tire wear. This has the effect
of moving the rear wheel a few millimeters to the
right, more under the weight so to speak, which
would lessen the effect. This is not a recommendation,
and if you do it, be careful that you have maintained
tire clearance from the swingarm.
Tire selection and tire pressures can also effect
both handling and tire wear. Handling effects
are hard to predict, but tire wear is less so.
A sport touring tire with a soft tread compound
will wear more quickly and the uneven wear will
be more noticeable. Low tire pressures will
permit more tread squirm and abnormal wear will
occur faster.
And, of course, a mechanical defect, either from
manufacturing, adjustment, or wear can exaggerate
the problem. This is insidious because dealers
often simply dismiss the complaints without a thorough
check of the bike because "they all do it."
The best way to determine if one bike is abnormal
is to comparison ride it with a like bike of the
same model. Don't just do it on the way to
a rally. Do it with both bikes unloaded so
weight distribution of the load doesn't skew what
you feel. Ride one bike then the other.
If at the same place, at the same time, under controlled
conditions you feel a significant difference in
the pull to the right - then investigate further.
If not, well then, "they all do that, don't
worry about it."
Good Wrenching
Paul Glaves
Tech Editor
BMW Owners News
ă Paul Glaves. Reprinted with permission.
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Engine
Torque
Another major school
of thought on the matter is that the pull is caused by the
torque of the boxer motor: <johnsonjohns@hotmail.com>
says ”The reason your BMW pulls to the right is because of
the torque reaction of the motor. At a stop, roll the throttle
on and off and you can fell the bike try to lift up and roll
right. There is nothing that can be done to change this because
the motor and bike is responding to the inertia generated
by the in-line motor configuration.” <jwing@iserv.net>
agrees completely: “Am I missing something here? A BMW pulls
to the right because of engine torque. The torque from the
flywheel spinning pulls the bike in that direction. Don't
think it can be avoided. I've come to just accept it as part
of the BMW experience.
Mark Neblett addresses
the torque issue as so: ”With due respect, the torque reaction
theory is not correct with R11RT's. I have a '99 RT
and a couple airheads -- all with torque reaction. The airheads
go straight, not withstanding any torque reaction; the R11RT
pulled right *strongly*…” I don't put much stock in the engine
rotation/torque-causing-the-pull theory, in large part because
my R75/6 goes straight down the road when driven under the
same conditions as the RT. My /6 has a Vetter SS and
Krausers (similar aerodynamic drag as the RT), so the /6's
torque output to maintain highway speeds must be in the same
ballpark as the R11RT's.”
Joshua J. Fielek
<jfielek@home.com>
asked “Are you letting go of the bars and getting a drift?
If so, are you using a throttle lock to keep steady throttle?
If not, you'll drift because the engine is braking, providing
a torque reaction to draw the bike to the side. My RT tracks
straight with the throttle lock on, and goes to the right
under engine braking.
Eckhard Grohe <egrohe@dsuper.net>
thinks it’s a weight issue and not a torque issue; ”I have
an RS that pulls straight. I can ride it hands off no problem.
My RT is another matter. Let go of the bars and it goes right.
I don't think it is the torque reaction but I have no good
argument against it. It would be very difficult to eliminate
torque reaction as a cause unless on coasted down hill in
neutral. Then it would only be the friction of the bearings
in the drive shaft and tranny as well, as the oil drag that
acted on the bike. As the driver automatically compensates
for any lean when letting go of the bars one would not notice
any subtle changes in the position of the driver's body to
compensate.”
“I believe that
it is a center of gravity problem as the gas tank is mostly
on the right and the drive shaft is also all on the right.
By removing the shim the line joining the wheel centers would
be moved to the right closer the center of gravity. It is
probably some of both but I think it is more of a center of
gravity problem. The question is as I said above IS IT WRONG
or is that the way they meant it to be? Either way a nice
ride.”
Suspension
Settings
Walt Klimek
of Tonawanda, NY <WKlimek46@aol.com>
pointed out an additional resource on this issue: “I don't
own an RT, but I did read about correct rear suspension adjustment
on the R1100RT to eliminate the pull to the right. Refer to
the Jan. 2000 issue of "Rider" magazine in
Andrew Macdonald's Tech Q&A column on page 61. Except
for the contributor who just shared his wisdom with us this
column is the only time that I've ever heard of this solution
for the "pulls to the right" problem”
Bruce Anderson
<BAnder6125@aol.com>
also saw the MacDonald’s column: “The tech editor, Andrew
MacDonald, fields a question about right pulling RTs
in the Jan. Rider magazine. He says that all instances of
this he's encountered were with short inseam riders
who had totally backed off the rear suspension preload to
lower ride height, which in turn lightens the load on
the front suspension. He also said that all bikes were
restored to straight tracking by putting some preload in
the rear. He suggested that front tire cupping may exacerbate
the problem.”
Tom Brown <tbrown@inil.com>
sums it up “The Tracking "problem" is pretty much
caused when people set the rear spring pre-load too low.
This is usually done in an attempt to lower the ride height
to make it easier to reach the street for the small of inseam.
Another reason is to make the bike ride "softer".
It's best to set the pre-load so that it sags about
1.25 - 1.5 inches or so with rider and normal load.
This keeps the bike in the range it was designed to work in
and will provide the most comfortable ride. Adjust compression
damping (that screwdriver adjustment on the left side of the
bike at the base of the shock through the side fairing, for
softer ride. Set it soft, ride around. Set it a little
harder, ride around. Repeat until the bike starts to
get harsh on the roads you normally ride, then back
off a little. That's the setting you want.
If compression
damping is too set to high, the bike will be very uncomfortable.
Preload makes less of a difference unless it is bottoming.
If it is hitting the top of the stroke when rebounding from
bumps, the bike will handle strange, but will not be as harsh
as the wrong compression setting.”
Mark Neblett found
no success in this area: “ I did try a variety of suspension
set ups, with no difference noted anywhere within the adjustment
range of either the spring preload or damping. I actually
prefer, even though I'm, ah, "altitude challenged,"
to ride with the suspension on the higher/firmer side.
(for info, I was an engineer in a prior career and have been
tweaking suspension setups on my bikes since the late '70,
so I like to think of myself as reasonably well qualified
to speak on this subject) So, even though not logical,
I did try suspension adjustment before I resorted to removing
the swingarm pivot bolt. Suspension adjustment simply
had no effect. Moreover, while a number of folks have
repeated this theory, I've yet to hear one person say it helped
fix their pulling problem.
Don't get me wrong
-- I'm perfectly willing to accept as real a result without
understanding the theory behind it, and just as willing to
accept a rational theory without requiring results to confirm
it (I was trained that way -- a lot of theoretical particle
physics in undergrad days). Here we have no results
and no theory -- just an unsupported suggestion that ride
height changes tracking.”
“How does soft
suspension effect the direction the bike wants to go in?
If the wheels are properly aligned, then the suspension adjustment
should only affect what is going on in the vertical plane
of the bike ř in other words, changing ride height shouldn't
change the wheel alignment to cause the bike to track to the
right or left. I'm open to suggestions, but I've yet
to hear anyone with a mechanics- or physics-based explanation
for how suspension height can make, or cure, a tendency to
pull to one side. My RT had a pronounced pull to the
right, and I had the spring and damper set at mid-level.
What I'm suggesting
is that unless folks are aware of an actual positive result,
or have a reasonable explanation as to how suspension height
could alter tracking, we should let this well-intentioned
but apparently baseless theory fade away.
Tom Brown <tbrown@capseal.com>
How does lowering cause a pull to the right? I don't
know. I've never experienced a pull to the right.
If your suspension is static sagging to half of the travel,
the pre-load is set too low. Just crank it up
and see if it helps the tracking. Just because
I don't know the logic doesn't mean it can't be so.
Try it. You risk nothing.” “I'm not promising that it
will work. I'm saying it might work and save you a lot
of grief.” Tom also pointed out that “”softening” and setting
pre-load lower aren't always the same thing. If pre-load is
too low, the shock and spring do their work near the bottom
of the stroke and this can make things much harsher, especially
on the big bumps. I cranked pre-load up and got a much better
ride...too much is too much, of course, but too little can
be very bad too....especially with the "sitting up straight"
riding position on the RT.”
Gary Prickett <BeemerGary@aol.com>
suggests that you consider the analysis of Paul Glaves and
Andrew MacDonald within the context of their experience: “Although
the explanations by both of these knowledgeable Tech Editors
seem plausible, I tend to lean more towards that of Paul Glaves.
Although Andrew MacDonald certainly seems to have a
broad base of knowledge about just about every brand
of motorcycle out there, it appears to me that Paul's knowledge
about BMW motorcycles is more focused on this single brand
and therefore somewhat more detailed. It boils down
to the difference between a generalist and a specialist.”
Alignment
Mark Neblett, “I
believe the problem is a basic alignment issue, as evidenced
by reports that the only fix that seems to improve the condition
is shifting the rear wheel to the right.” “Those reporting
improvement have all moved the rear wheel to the right, i.e.,
removed the 2mm rear wheel shim, and if that's not enough,
moved the swingarm to the right with shim(s).”
“I fixed the problem myself with the help of my very cooperative
dealer…”.
“The short answer
is it was cured by moving the rear tire to the right a total
of 4mm. I pulled out the spacer between the rear wheel
and the final drive output flange (2mm) and placing a washer/shim
(another 2mm) under the head of the right-hand swingarm pivot
bolt. Four mm doesn't sound like much, but my back-of-the-envelope
calculations say that the 4mm shift eliminated a moment in
ft-lbs that was equivalent to driving the bike while holding
a bag of sugar out to the side at arm's-length.”
“All done empirically;
removing the rear wheel shim took care of about 1/2 the pull,
so I figured that another 2mm to the right would take care
of the rest. Since it worked, I haven't bothered to check
alignment (especially since I didn't know whether the wheels
leave the factory in line or deliberately offset in the first
place).“
The first fix is
easy The first 2mm is simple ř just remove the spacer
between the rear wheel and the final drive output flange.
The second 2mm comes at a higher price: Mark Neblett again:
“Insert a 2mm washer/shim under the head of the right-hand
swing-arm pivot bolt (if you can break the pivot bolt loose
without destroying the threads in the tranny case!), then
move the left-hand pivot pin in (toward the right) a corresponding
amount.”
“…beneath this
short explanation is more than seven hours of @#$%^#@ work
removing/replacing the pivot bolt at my BMW dealers shop *with*
the constant help of the Service Manager and at least one
(and often more) of his techs. This ought-to-be simple piece
of work (removing the swingarm pivot bolts), but it won't
necessarily be so. Mark was unable to even loosen the swingarm
pivot bolt, so his dealer said he would help out. “What
was to be a 20 min courtesy assist from my dealer to break
the right swingarm pivot loose turned into a *seven* hour
extravaganza, starring up to four professional mechanics and
a shade-treer (me). Getting the pivot bolt out/replaced
was a !#$*&@!#^$# (God bless the guys at Morton's - Charlie,
Rich, Zarin and Bill -- they even kept their sense of humor
through this!).”
“Suffice it to
say the OE Locktite used by Hans during installation was *far*
stronger that the alloy used for the pivot bolt, and the threads
that stripped from the middle section of the pivot bolt were
glued so hard to the tranny case threads that the remaining
*good* threads at the back of the bolt couldn't pass.
I was pretty lucky with the threads in the tranny case.
It turned out that the right hand swingarm pivot bolt material
is a surprisingly soft Aluminum alloy, and thus was much softer
than the tranny case. Apparently, the engineers had
enough sense to make the pivot bolt the sacrificial part of
the system. That said, you have to think long and hard
about whether you want to do this -- I can easily envision
something being "different" with you bike, such
that the tranny case threads strip out (the old "$300
TV blows to protect the $.10 fuse" theory). At
some point, though, you'll need to lube the clutch and tranny
output shaft splines, so the pivot bolt will have to come
out anyway. My $0.02 worth (with the usual disclaimers!):
Your best bet may be to take the bike in to your dealer (and
pay them an arm and a leg) to have them perform the spline
service, so that if the pivot bolt strips out it will be theirs
to fix -- though check with them first to make sure that they
won't charge you for fixing the pivot or, worst case, replacing
the tranny. If your service folks agree that you won't
be charged if your pivot bites the dust, then hand them an
appropriately sized washer/shim and ask them to kindly install
it under the head of the pivot bolt when they are reassembling
the bike.
On to my thread story! Once we stripped enough threads
off the pivot bolt to loosen/pry it out (it only took 300-400
ft-lb of torque (before the 12mm Allen socket stripped out
the socket in the pivot bolt), drilling out the center of
the pivot bolt with progressively larger bits, then Dremelling
out the inside of the bolt to near paper thinness!), we found
the tranny case threads in pretty good shape, considering
all that had transpired. The case threads are 1/2 - 5/8
inch deep. The @#$)@&^ Locktite had effectively
welded a ring of pivot bolt threads {about three threads'
width) to the case threads about 1/4 inch in from the outer
edge of the tranny case. After we picked out glued-in
pivot bolt thread chips for half and hour and thread-filed
the remaining glued-on threads out (a b*tch operation itself),
we found we could run the new pivot bolt in from the outside
about 2 threads before it hung up on bunged-up threads and
unseen pivot bolt debris, and from the back (after removing
the swingarm) we could go in more than half way into the case.
We cleaned the case threads up a little more, and then, because
we didn't have a thread chaser that big on hand, we threaded
the pivot bolt from the inside of the case to the outside.
Apparently we had cleaned the threads sufficiently, because
the new soft alloy pivot bolt survived and threaded into the
case from the outside on final assembly without further excitement.
Unfortunately, I only have one datapoint -- mine, so I can't
predict the same will be the case with your pivot. The
experienced folks in my dealer's shop had never seen anything
like this in six years of R11 wrenching.
But, it was all
worth it (well, maybe not to Charlie and crew!). Maybe
it's just the afterglow from getting the job done, but to
me the RT feels completely different -- as neutral as any
/5, /6 or /7 I've ever ridden. Finally feels "right.""
One reader wanted
to try this himself at home, but was concerned about getting
the bolt out and asked Mark “….if when, you were loosening
the pivot bolts, did you attempt to soften the locktite with
a heat gun? Also was the locktite blue or green or something
else? I am getting ready to proceed on this and
would like to minimize the things that can go wrong.”
Mark replied that
one “Definitely needs heat to break down the OE locktite (it's
definitely not the "blue" formula -- it was stronger
than the pivot bolt itself), but we couldn't get the pivot
hot enough to break the locktite down. -- in fact, we were
aware that the BMW locktite requires higher temperature than
other compositions to break down, and applied heat accordingly.
Two professional's heat guns, used simultaneously, consistently
got temps up into 120-130 degrees C range (250-260 F) at the
surface, as measured by a pin-point infrared pyrometer.
SOB pivot bolt just laughed at us. Only reason we didn't
use a torch was BMW's warning that application of open flame
can result in sudden sagging/melting of the tranny case without
warning!”
“We used plain
blue locktite on reassembly. This may be an operation you
want to have your dealer perform -- they have access to tools/replacement
pivot bolt, and can handle a warranty claim, if needed.”
D. Guy Harris <dguy@cts.com>
of San Diego, CA performed the pivot bolt shift and had positive
results. Guy rides a 99 RT and for some reason, the whole
procedure went a little smoother than Mark's: Guy installed
"a shim under the swingarm right-hand pivot bolt. This
along with removing the shim between the wheel and final drive
has, apparently, removed all traces of pulling."
"I installed
a .098", ss, washer that I cut down to match the bolt
head. I had no problems with removing the right-hand pivot
bolt -- heat must be used for it's removal! And the threads
need to be CLEAN before re-assembly. The only thing that isn't
ideal is the left-hand pivotbolt could be a little longer.
I used loctite 242 on reassembly--the blue stuff."
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